Comments on: PBN’s not working anymore? Sorry Spencer, Im not convinced..(Controversial Post) http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pbns-not-working SEO & Internet Marketing Blog! Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:27:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.3 By: Kevin http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/#comment-302479 Sat, 28 Mar 2015 18:27:52 +0000 http://doseoyourself.com/?p=920#comment-302479 The only thing that doesn’t make sense to me about pbns, is that the sites in the network that are linking to your money site will get no traffic at all. even if they have great content, unique themes, and the whole pbn is set up perfect so it leaves no footprint, isn’t it easy for Google to devalue links from websites that get no traffic?

If someone could explain this to me it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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By: alexthepbndude http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/#comment-104453 Fri, 03 Oct 2014 07:02:09 +0000 http://doseoyourself.com/?p=920#comment-104453 It’s simply unbelievable how so many “gurus” and “influence marketers” in the SEO community fall for Google’s psyops and propaganda over and over again. We’ve seen this during the first launch of Penguin, we’ve seen this with manual actions against big public blog networks and now this. They even claimed to have taken SAPE down. I mean.. seriously?! Do people have any clue what SAPE actually is and why there is no possible way to stop the evolution of the link buying industry unless you TOTALLY remove links as one of the most powerful factors in a ranking algorithm?

Now, if you take some time to analyze what’s really going on, you notice this is nothing more then a false flag SLAP designed by Google’s web spam team to scare the shit out of newbies, please note, while our good old friend Matt is on vacation.. And they did that because PBNs are freaking efficient these days and also because if you do it right and make sure P stands for PRIVATE, not public, then chances of getting in trouble are really small.

But you have to do it right.

And using your real WHOIS information across a network of several hundred PBN sites is NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT. And there is no excuse for that. I mean, with all do respect, but the guy was teaching beginners how to rank using PBNs and he did a PBN mistake which dates 2006. That’s unacceptable.

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By: Matthew Allen http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/#comment-99848 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 10:01:54 +0000 http://doseoyourself.com/?p=920#comment-99848 Number 4 from Cesar’s comment above has me a little worried – especially because I just spilled the beans on my use of a PBN that did not get taken down in my latest post. Since I talked about it on my main blog, there is the very rare chance that a manual reviewer could look at my post, then see a few of my other sites in the same WMT account and clearly see that they are Amazon affiliate sites and take them down too. But luckily I never used Rank Hero and all of my links are built legit and look natural.

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By: Scott http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/#comment-99700 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 06:12:34 +0000 http://doseoyourself.com/?p=920#comment-99700 I agree with you Cesar.

There’s no way Google can detect a PBN which has been implemented correctly using any algorithm.

There’s also a lot of evidence out there to suggest that the algo update has targeted affiliate sites, where it’s clearly just a site to link people out to Amazon etc.

The people who are saying “Yeah well, I have a private PBN, and my site has received a thin content penalty” – and are putting it down to the PBN. They’re the same people who have the sites purely linking out using affiliate links.

The thin content penalty has nothing to do with backlinks. The penalty for shady backlinks is “Unnatural links to your site”, which would surely be the message you get from Google if they’d detected a PBN.

Maybe. Maybe not.

Does anyone really know what Google are doing? Or are we all just joining in on the propaganda?

– Scott

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By: Cesar the expired domain guy http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/#comment-99242 Sun, 28 Sep 2014 17:18:59 +0000 http://doseoyourself.com/?p=920#comment-99242 I hear you guys. I too have been a follower of Spencer blog for some time, and I was not truly convinced on his statement of PBNs no longer working, it seems to me as a sort of scare tactics and can’t shake the feeling of a underlying motive. And I do agree with a way to truly scare the masses is by making an example of one of the two biggest IM sites outhere – Spencer’s and Hayden’s. If this was truly (algo, which I don’t believe) then why are there are just as much people in the net saying that their PBNs are still working? I think its because a couple of things: 1. They didn’t participate in any Public Blog Networks (Rankhero) etc. 2. They truly are doing a great job of hiding their PBNs. 3. Not selling any of their links and only using it for themselves. 4. They use it ONLY for themselves and don’t mentioned it anywhere on the net.

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By: Jack http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/#comment-98806 Sun, 28 Sep 2014 05:08:32 +0000 http://doseoyourself.com/?p=920#comment-98806 I think its obvious Spencer has underlying motives for that post he made. No experienced person in SEO takes that much of a complete 180 overnight unless he is hiding something.

This is just like the crap with PR becoming worthless. Its all just horseshit.

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By: Ted http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/#comment-97818 Sat, 27 Sep 2014 02:54:40 +0000 http://doseoyourself.com/?p=920#comment-97818 very interesting post, I have learned a lot from spencer’s blog but this time I don’t agree with him. Many people claim that they will “build an authority site that attract natural link” which I think it is bullshit. in most cases they will fail for obvious reason: lack of knowledge so they can only rewrite or re-edit to post some rehash content which arent real high quality content, and it hard to insist when they aren’t really interested in the topic of theirs “authority site”. The only reason we build niche sites is making money, we should only focus on ROI, not other bullshit, we are not build website for just interest. I personally will still build PBN until the day that ROI isn’t good to me.

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By: David Longacre http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/#comment-97358 Fri, 26 Sep 2014 18:25:21 +0000 http://doseoyourself.com/?p=920#comment-97358 I was waiting for your take on this. I agree completely. This is why I followed your tutorials to a tee about building Private Blog Networks. Anybody who thinks they dont work still are just playing follow the noob seo blogs. This is why I have never purchased a single link from a Public Blog Network like Rank Hero. It’s funny that they sat there and said there blog network were so much different? How is it different? Build My Rank got shot down. Now they did too. These scared SEO blog posts are exactly what Google wants. Hit the big blog networks they know all the noob seo’s will fold and give up. The real SEO guys who wanted to not take the easy route and know that quality SEO takes times and effort. I really discredit the niche pursuits blog now and think that was very foolish to out yourself and your blog. Pretty sure he should of just outed Rank Hero and that should of been the end of saying dont purchase links from us anymore. Anyways thats my take on it. Great post though. The SEO controversy show will go on!

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By: Anurag http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/#comment-97211 Fri, 26 Sep 2014 14:53:56 +0000 http://doseoyourself.com/?p=920#comment-97211 I agree with you..especially the point about snowball effect. Its the same all over again..what happened after BMR and ALN got de-indexed. The point about the penalty on WMT is well explained by Charles over at godofseo blog. The site mentioned in Spencer’s blog post is not at all a thin site..it has 100+ pages indexed. So G sending out thin site notice does not make sense. Any who PBNs work and probably always will may be not as we see it..but looking more like money sites.

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By: Aaron http://doseoyourself.com/pbns-not-working/#comment-97180 Fri, 26 Sep 2014 14:10:42 +0000 http://doseoyourself.com/?p=920#comment-97180 Great article. I was reading and reading it and then “bam” you circled the problem. His PBN’s were not private..more like public lol. I do not see how Google will ever be able to detect a true Private network that you buy the domains and set them up for yourself with different hosts and whoisguard so that no trace of the same person is making them. I just don’t see it being possible UNLESS all those domains have crap content, using the default theme, look similar, and just look thrown together for a quick link. Other than that, impossible.

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